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Wednesday, April 27, 2005

Columbia Waitlist Policy

Thanks to Graham at ClearAdmit for pointing this out. It was so good that I just had to archive it here.
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Hi everyone,

I rarely post outside of my cozy little "Ask Columbia Admissions" space, but this thread caught my attention and I thought I should comment on some things that are inaccurate. Full disclosure for those who don't know: I'm a Columbia MBA from 2003 and have been filling in as an admissions officer for a while. One of my jobs is to answer all the questions from you fine folks here on the BW forums.

First, I'd like to explain why we have our Early Decision round. As many of you know, we are unique in that we admit two classes every year: one for September, one for January. We actually used to read our January applications prior to reading any of our fall applications. This worked okay for a while, but as the number of applications to our program increased we found that this system delayed our fall decisions by as much as a month or two. As you can imagine, this created huge headaches for our applicants, so we needed to create a way to read some fall applications ahead of time. Our response was the creation of the ED round, which allows us to read a group of fall applications during the time we read the January applications. This prevents us from being late with the remaining fall applications, which we think is a good thing! (By the way, in response to all of you guys, we'll begin reading January applications even earlier this year. The application will be up within a week.)

The ED decision is binding because this has the effect of limiting how many people will apply in this round. That is all. Having too many applications in this round could delay our January decisions, and we obviously don't want that. If applicants know that Columbia is their top choice, we feel that it's perfectly reasonable to give them the first crack at the available spots in the class. If applicants aren't sure, they should wait until the regular decision round. That's fine and quite understandable.

Another thing I want to bring up is our interview process, specifically the questions that our alumni ask. I've addressed this before in my forum, but I want to make some things clear. First, we don't give alumni questions to ask. We give them some guidelines, but they are free to ask whatever they like. If you check around on these forums, you'll see that many interviews are quite casual and conversational. Some of our 35,000 alumni may ask what other schools "you" are applying to, but the intent is not to asses "yield" as some have suggested. The intent of this question, or others like it ("Why Columbia?" etc.), is simple. As I've said, we like people who really want to be here--and they could want to be at a couple of schools for different reasons by the way--because they tend to be more active students and alumni. That's important. Alumni like to check "fit" with the program. If an applicant replies that they've applied to, say, 6 wildy different programs, it could be that she hasn't given much thought to what she wants out of an MBA or to what she'll contribute to the program. We expect students to apply to some of our peer institutions--I know I did--because the top programs are all great. That's completely fine and normal. What would raise eyebrows is if the applicant offered no explanation for the choices. This could indicate, as I mentioned, someone who may not "fit" with the program and really put in as much as he's getting out. Our program is student driven, so this is crucial.

I'm sorry for the long response, but it is my job to make sure our processes are as transparent as possible. I think they are as clear as anyone's, but if they are not please do not hesitate to contact me so I can explain them further. Thanks so much, and happy posting!

Regards,

Keith Katz
Columbia MBA Admissions

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